Was anybody left unemployed due to the contract with Aramark ? Was'nt there a Consultant firm hired over this ? Maybe the Big Rat in all of this is .You know who.

Wait, the union is spending 6K on signage to get rid of Aramark due to mismanagement of tax dollars? Seems to me that the money for this campaign comes on the backs of their membership dues which are funded by (drum roll please).....TAX DOLLARS. So which is a bigger waste of tax dollars. Union campagins to increase membership, or functional dumpsters....call me crazy..

The Mayor hired a consultant firm with the approval of the board of alders.The consultant firm advised the City to hire an outside company to run the lunch program
(or just supply the food) Just what happened in our school system that required this action ?
This Aramark contributed to the Desteffano campaign.
The consultant firm has a few ties ,one being local lawyers.They contribute to his campaigns, cause and effect like the need for new trucks,
Where were the signs when the Mayor was inking this contract ?

Is this union really putting the kids first? I find the union very ignorant. The city is saying we made this decision to buy the dumpsters, but this is still ARAMARK mistake. It?s ok to say you?ve made a mistake and wasted $6,150.00 of the union?s money. This money could have been spent on these children that you would like to say you put first.
I think this union has one agenda themselves.

I think aramark pushed for these dumpsters,and they did not do it for nothing everything they do is for themselves,and of course the mayor and dr.mayo are behind them there also helping aramark wouldnt you when they all are taking care of .we all know whats really going on here ,if people dont know that favors get done and public officials get kickbacks they must be as dumb as a stump.or mr butler getting a nice gas line done too his nice new gas grill,or that the company that hooked up a nice security system will be the same company that gets the job hooking up security at the new office on ferry which is owned by pascerelli electric oh yeh now they are getting jobs doing carpentry and plumbing,oh I forgot to mention andy butlers one hundred somethin thousand motor home which he stated he got cheap,and who has the power over a 1.5 billion of grant money to do new schools that there all not getting done with everything properly and dr.mayo signs off on them and where is our linen we have been washing mops ourselves the IRS and FBI need too investigate all companies doing business with the city and aramark,then you will see missing funds then you will see that what they save is theres too share its greed shame on the city and the million aramark saved on energy so what give some of the millions back to the students not for kickbacks and shame on all who is involved,they want to privatize to keep more money ,when do they stop w/cutbacks ,dont you make enough to manage properly fairly ,some custodians need to step it up a notch thats why we should have 2 of us to check every building every night and we should add 2 or 3 to wash linen deliver pickup,we can save way more than any company we are civil servants we should be above any mangement company we wont hide money we will buy books and finish buildings properly we would save big money without any management company all the city needs is to hire a couple of guys 2 can do what aramark is doing they are white coller criminals shame on the city all these dr.s with degrees should focus on letting us show we can save we would never give a kickback or take one the city would hold all money lets do it together with the money aramark gets we could hire 50,60,more guys maybe more hire more food workers cook in house we could have food catered for the money there getting to package they do everything they can to save money for aramark not the taxpayers the city still spends big money keep it in the city of new haven not philly,also custodians have children in these schools we live here we will save money we will manage we will restructure,if municipalities privatize they are corrupt.let us save for the city we can do better than anyone we have ties with companies that would finish the whole building the right way,and not overpriced no kickbacks,see east havens new mayor in 1 month she has saved countless dollars money wasted renting empty garages,heating empty building,all that oil the old mayor helping friends thats 10grand easy a month,just think about the stuff going on here at our home new haven,andy butler said he is going to bring in mexicans from jersey to clean and save for aramark

the heck with dumpsters,the money aramark saves is for them not the city,the city should have there civil servants show what we can do with the money,to hire another management company is an oxymoron,meaning paying out all that money is a lose lose situation,if the city truely wants to save money ,they should be asking the custodians for there input we have alot of very bright civil servants,you hired us some custodians were incharge of saving money at other jobs,i can do what all of aramarks managers are doing for a fraction of the cost they are a waste of money,we can hire countless workers and add positions do our own linen do our own grounds,aramark is very good at hiring there friends and using tax dollars for their own gain,and us custodians have children in new haven schools,yeh we will save way more than any company ever can,management companies are a waste of money who is benefitting with these companies not the tax payers,not the students,I myself saved hundreds of thousands of dollars at my old job and no one was fired we were able to hire more people and still saved money,we just changed a few little things and it was big money,and a bonus for all of us involved with ideas that we had,it can be done here in house we have bright people that are not greedy,we live day to day down to earth,if any city ever hired private company to clean they are corrupt,our union shall bid the job and have 3 guys do what all of aramark does the city should come to us and ask how we would save money,if they really want to save for the city ,not for favors ,not for kickbacks but for students we would we live here also we also dont want to see our money wasted,and any management company is out for themselves they are hired to hide money not save

i think the Bd.of Alders has to demand an audit of the Bd. of Ed. .and since many members of the BOE were bought out by the Mayor with jobs there,they're not going to bother.
..and an alliance was formed -between Tribe Aramark and the Tribe of Board Donkeys ..suffer the children is right, just where are the advocates for school children?
..as soon as they doth protesteth is as soon as an envelope is shoved in their

This Union plan is clear themselves; they are what?s costing the city. Want, want, want.
These cafeteria and custodian workers cost The City of New Haven taxpayers a fortune. They should be happy that as unskilled workers they can take home a healthy paycheck and medical benefit. (At portion of what most people pay). All I can say is watch what you wish for!!!!

i don't know, Lawyers descend on this City like crows on street kill. This City has a reputation for a place they can pull some nasty stunts. You d'n't think these Aramark people had a Lawyer or two ?
I wonder if Yale Law school aided this and received any money from the City.?? they were Yales caterer first..one starts to surmise and speculate as pieces of this puzzle are missing.
The Mayor's Market New Haven might be causing some duress amidst City employs..The guy at the advice of counsel always needs to make room for some new ally or what he feels as strategic hitoffs.
I don't know who to feel more sympathy for - Union members who are'nt treated as Union equals or City Hall and the budget ..The corruption on both ends (union leaders,Bd.directors) City Hall's desire for status quo.
i guess all of the activist and inquiring minds just run back and forth until they tire. The answers you get are straight out of an Abbott & Costello routine .
"hey,that's hoomina hoomina , go to first,

Seagull on a franchaise

lets not forget how aramark gave brian stansfield a nice paying job ,they did it because he did what they told him to do.and that was to talk all custodians into opening our contract early and hold off our raises for 6 months change our insurance coverage,we coudnt even get the proper help from our own union president,because of favors and so on,and lets not forget how warren spanner went to every school telling everyone how we have to open it ,and brian was asked more than once where are you going,his reply and I qoute(im not going anywhere until i retire)as soon as they inked the deal he was gone ,he should have been brought up on charges we could have had that contract voided ,and he was also asked whether they gave him money,we all know he robbed our money his own brothers,thankyou brian,see what were dealing with,just think what else aramark is doing or who their paying or giving a job too,then you got 2 of our union members going to 2to4 buildings a night banging it out,then you have more of our members plowing schools,not for city but for aramark,maybe the custodian that has a contract to plow will win a contract to clean the schools next.he helped clarks in the past when a certain school was finished he helped,we are being laughed at ,the union has to put an end to this immediatly,we have to play hard ball with our own union brothers we are competting with these greedy members of our own union are they just stupid,they go to these buildings and get paid over time every night they do a favor for aramark and bang out these schools were talking two union members doing this its wrong you are helping aramark and yourselves,you are greedy people your hurting your fellow union members,and aramark already privatized they seperated our union from the greedy to not greedy,from custodians that go to thier monthly union meetings ,to the ones that dont,all members that do not come to meetings every month shame on you all,if your for aramark dont come at all,but if your for helping your fellow brother please come to the meetings because it wont even matter in the long run if we end up with no jobs,I have children to feed I want my job ,because I love it when every day when I am complemented on how good our school looks and how clean we keep it.the teachers do appreciate it and also the principal and if you talk with the staff they all know we maintain the buildings from calling in stuff doing that little extra for the teachers they know we did not have to help them and they do see the difference,becase the schools the city leases have their own janitors and they cant even compete with what we do,I have spoken to plenty of staff at these buildings over the years kitchen workers really miss having us in those schools.imagine a private company ,they wont do what most of us do,because we care about the students we care about the teachers,we care about the staff we care about the schools,so we get paid good money we are worth it.put it this way if its ever privatized you wont see any savings the same amount is paid even more they wont show you how much,thats for the officials not the taxpayers so its not the city saving money its about aramark saving it for themselves not the city ,so woudnt you rather see someone from new haven making good money and spending it in your stores in our city ,or would you rather see the saved money in a private company in philly,so the taxpayer you will probably be even more in a whole with any private company they cut and cut and once they see they can cut our hours covering buildings and the greedy people they have at their fingertips,TO ALL LOCAL 287 COME TO THE MEETINGS so you know what the hell is going on.help us ,hey our union should hire a financial advisor and we can run some numbers by DR.Mayo and show him what we can save just by doing our own linen thats alot of money right there most schools already have washer and dryers,instead of contracting out the plowing,we can plow add up what is being paid to the private sector,versus city employees even getting overtime its alot cheaper for us to plow and the list goes on and on why do you think all these companies want too be involved its big big money for them to cut us back and they make more and more,we can do everything ourselves for a quarter of what aramark is charging probably less if we count their saleries,with one of their paychecks for the year we can hire three to four custodians two of which can do linen,landscaping,why is it not ours,another ploy for money.

blaming the dumpster for their bad work ethics. You can see the same thing with these Recycling Trucks,the quicker they're done with their route the sooner they can quit

Half of you don't know what you are talking about,
#1 when the schools were under the management of city employees (with the exception of a few) the whole budget was out of control. An outside management company was brought in to fix the problem and save money. It costs the city more to have people on salary, pay health insurance, overtime etc etc.
#2 Now the city employees made a killing on overtime for a few years, (you know who you are) now that the overtime has been adjusted, you don't like it.
#3 When custodians are found sleeping at the schools or watching TV in their rooms, and then have the nerve to ask for overtime because they couldn't get the job done (again you know who you are) I guess we have to assume that that is OK? When people are asked to be accountable for their work, they get all upset and need someone to blame. If you did your job like you say you do, then you wouldn't have a problem.
Now don't get me wrong, there are plenty of great city employees, including custodians, cafe workers, clerical etc. But when you have more than 50% screwing around and complaining because now they have to account for their time, they don't like it..
#4 When other good custodians have to do the majority of the work, because the other guy didn't get anything done, be mad at the lazy worker for not doing his part to "Make the schools better for our kids", don't complain because Aramark is asking you to work harder and be accountable. #5 How about all the workers that have their own businesses, other jobs, and seem to do those jobs while on city time?? I guess that's ok and not costing the city money?? You should be ashamed of yourselves.
#6 How about whenever a grievance is filed when a classroom of kids want to plant a tree or flowers in honor of a teacher who passed away, and the grievance is filed by our city grounds crew, because they didn't dig the hole (AND THEN THEY WIN)!!!!! Tell me that's in the best interest of the kids. They only grieved it to get the overtime money, not that they cared what the kids were doing. (You should be ashemed of yourselves too) This goes on all the time, Grieve This, Grieve That. That's what is constantly costing the city and the Board of Ed. tons of money.
The Aramark Managers make a straight salary, no overtime, and they are on call 24/7. Can any of you say that??
#6 You don't like the GPS system on the trucks and cars, well if you were where you're supposed to be (like on the job) then you should have no complaints. But when you are going home, or to another job, then of course you don't want anyone to know. It's called "ACCOUNTABILITY".
Now you may find this hard to believe, but I am a city employee. Am I pleased with the unions NO, did you hear me? NO, I think the unions are there to protect the lazy, the criminals, the friends of the friends. When was the last time someone got a raise or promotion for doing a good job? UNHEARD OF. NO SUCH THING. Only happens when there is a test (or a job opening) Now there may not be a test that fits for about 8 years, but that's ok, you stay at what you are doing, making the same amount of money as the person next to you who does nothing. But I guess you're happy with that. When the unions do something except for taking money out of our paycheck each week, then you can speak about going to Union Meetings, and "Hooray for the Union". Now in case you all didn't know, this is a National Campaign by the Unions to oust Outside Contractors, not just Aramark (they just happen to be 1st on the list), next they go after Sedescko and then on and on and on.. This is not just Aramark bashing, and for those of you who started the personal bashing, I hope you have proof before it comes back to haunt you. Unless you have actually been to Mr. Butler's home, how on earth would you know about a gas line to his grill??? Now really, does that make sense to you? I believe he has an old grill with a propane tank, just like the rest of us.
When upper management is so top heavy in this city and Board of Ed, that is what you should be complaining about, that is where all the wasted money is going. How many consultants are really needed? But a friend of a friend needed a job to add on to his/her retirement, that they decide to make a job to suit, but union members can't get a deserved promotion?? So where is your logic about wasted money??? Try looking within your own city workers, there are only a few Aramark workers, there are tons of city workers, you figure out the percentages!!!!!!!!
This city has been a political machine since before time, and the political pulls are your top City and Board of Ed. Management. They needed Aramark to cut costs, in order to keep their OWN pockets alive!!! They control the budget, not Aramark, and it's the city employees who are overseeing the budget. Aramark must work within their guidelines.
The city will never give back the management to city employees. They will only bring in another outside contractor, maybe even Aramark again.
THINK ABOUT IT FOR REAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And ask the union if they really are on your side???? When was the last time you got a promotion or raise for doing a good job????????

spoken like a true aramark employee doesnt know his FACTS

That "Grievance" ploy is used nastily in Public Works also,,my bet it's all of the Municipalities.well Mr.Paul ,disgusted says he's a City Employee, i give him a lot of credit for coming forward.
Bad Supervision is probably intentional to keep the troops happy as the Mayor plays the pay to play game with Aramark

Hey Bill, I won't call you crazy, just kind of uninformed. The dumpsters AREN'T functional. Look at the picture in the story.

There ARE no bears in New Haven Schools not there IS (There's) no bears - subject verb agreement folks. If people are going to trash something, maybe it should be their own education. Maybe all of the money being wasted on signs and other stuff should be spent on hiring teachers at a real living wage!

I'm just getting caught up with some of the replies. Hooray for Grammar, as I tried to read some of the responses, I couldn't make heads or tails out of some of the sentences because the grammar was so bad, so the thought just kind of fades. As for Paul, read my reply, I am a CITY EMPLOYEE, not Aramark. I'm just disgusted with the city, the unions, the Top Brass at the Board of Ed. the Mayor and all the CONSULTANTS that are not needed. Here's a new one for you: How about hiring someone in a highly paid position, then bring back the previous person who retired from that position to take a better one with the State, but now you have him back again to CONSULT, because the new person can't (and won't do the job). Now you are paying 2 people top notch salaries for the same job, and the low level staff is doing all the work!!!!! HOW'S THAT FOR GOOD BOARD OF EDUCATION FUNDING???????? This happens all the time.
Now we hear they want to put a freeze on our raises this July, (That's right) so us lowly employees get a freeze, while the big shots pay double salaries for 1 job. Now this all makes sense right????? How about joining together to strike if we get the freeze, and screw the unions and upper management!!!!!!!!!! The unions are only stirring all this stuff up, so they can recruit the Aramark people (and all other outside contractors around the country) to join the unions, (or didn't you know that) they are not doing this because they care about you or me. It's just more funding in the unions pocket. What are we paying union dues for anyway? I haven't figured that out yet, and I've been in the union for 12 years!! This is a National Campaign, not a New Haven Campaign by the unions. When you get your pay freeze, or only part of your raise this July, then go to the union and say "GOOD JOB", because the only thing you are going to get - is a HEADACHE!